tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post7037335165341239159..comments2024-03-06T10:53:14.782+11:00Comments on Social Issues & Torah (TFH): Murdoch, Abuse, Lashes, Vows and Violence - MatotRabbi Zalman Kastel AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15689513680760912342noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post-2550478592370371412011-07-26T20:14:40.949+10:002011-07-26T20:14:40.949+10:00thanks Russel and Irshad for your contributions fr...thanks Russel and Irshad for your contributions from Muslim perspectives. It is great to be having these conversations. <br /><br />The death penalty for a Blasphemer is in the Torah. I am not aware of death penalty for apostacy in the original Torah law, unless it involved actual idol worship. <br /><br />Our tradition includes the Authority for Scholars to interpret the law. We have a story of Moses looking into the future and seeing the vast number of new laws taught by Rabbi Akiva based on crowns of the letters. He felt sad, until God told him that everything r. Akiva taught was based on Moses' teaching. <br /><br />In line with this delegated authority from God is the right of the scholars to declare that we no longer have the authority for capital punishment for male Homosexual acts or any other reason. This provides opportunities for empathy towards Homosexuals as I began to describe in my post on this issues. <br /> http://torahforsociallyawarehasid.blogspot.com/2011/04/torah-based-responses-to-homosexuality.htmlRabbi Zalman Kastel AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689513680760912342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post-77921013791096637262011-07-26T04:40:59.048+10:002011-07-26T04:40:59.048+10:00russel is right--- the stoning to death for marrie...russel is right--- the stoning to death for married person doing adulary came from the Torah, the prophet Muhammad quoted the Torah when he started this punishment according to a hadith. the punishment for adultery in the quran is lashing.<br /><br />also the stobing for male homosexuals --- that also comes from the Torah, Caliph Umar quoted the Torah when he instituted it.irshad alamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post-30923476586711569402011-07-25T20:21:50.517+10:002011-07-25T20:21:50.517+10:00The punishment described is actually adopted by mu...The punishment described is actually adopted by muslims from the jewish tradition. An example is the "stoning of apostates" I suspect this was brought over by early jewish converts to islam who maintained their traditions.<br /><br />Now as for jewish tradition and ?no longer have...? let me say that noone had that authority to begin with, it was man made law and was not fromn God. Man (any man) can not place himself as God as that is who he would have to be to make God's law. If a man makes a new law or changes a law (he made it) so calling it interpretation , i believe is a way to have people accept this mans law but the meaning of torah does not change over time it was revealed for all times and has the same meaning it did for moses.<br /><br />This is my opinion from a muslim PrespectiveRusselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589585093439412705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post-29149749637213105622011-07-23T18:35:32.269+10:002011-07-23T18:35:32.269+10:00Thanks Safiyya for that helpful information. In Ju...Thanks Safiyya for that helpful information. In Judaism we no longer have authority to administer corporal or capital punishment because of "Bet Din" or religious court once the chain to Moses was broken.Rabbi Zalman Kastel AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689513680760912342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1241889800645271761.post-33650937912216505392011-07-23T08:46:36.206+10:002011-07-23T08:46:36.206+10:00Only the ruler of an Islaamic state (much like a j...Only the ruler of an Islaamic state (much like a judge in secular society) can inflict/order Hudud (mandatory criminal punishments) on a member of an Islaamic society - us little folks have no right to do that.Safiyyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670659439981133346noreply@blogger.com